Be careful, God will warn you many times that playing with FIRE is dangerous, and in the end will hand you over to the delusion you begged and pleaded for because you refuse to repent. Who says that someones new birth experience has to be like a drive up fast food place? But Amen!!!! He was making the essential distinction between those who were Gods and those who were not, not a sectarian distinction among those who were Gods. When a person HONORS and SURRENDERS to the Holy Spirit AS GOD, then the Holy Spirit MANIFESTS HIMSELFHIS GOODNESS, LOVE, PEACE, JOY etc. He does not require us to do anything for Him, but on the contrary, works through us to do His will, and pleasure. As proof of the spiritual authenticity of Torbens healings, you rely upon multitudes of people supporting your position. Andrew J Horton, you said I didnt see anything weird or suspect or new age or whatever in any of these YouTube videos . The choice to believe that God heals today is choice made by each believer. I remember an occasion at the Anglican Order of St. Luke in Christchurch when an unbelieving woman with a build up shoe (maybe 30cm or so) went forward for prayer and later limped back to her seat because the leg lengthened and the shoe was then too high for her to walk normally. There are so many trying to warn others about this man. Its sad that christians would mock other christians and claim they cannot discern the false from the truth when it comes to their personal walk with the Lord. Remember Moses staff and miracles brother? other ditch on the far side of the road. You see, people have been so in the habit of putting Jesus in a class by Himself that they have failed to recognize that He has made provision for the same living Spirit of God that dwelt in His own life, and of which He Himself was a living manifestation, to inhabit your being and mine, just as the Spirit inhabited the being of Jesus or Paul. We are doing a better job than what you had done by allowing sinful men whose hands we do not know what they may have been doing to baptise us in lots and lots of water.. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. But, do you recall a single event, where Jesus did something that the heathen did, or that the enemy did? Mar 9:39 KJV But Jesus said, Forbid him not: FOR THERE IS NO MAN WHICH SHALL DO A MIRACLE IN MY NAME, THAT CAN LIGHTLY SPEAK EVIL OF ME. The healer used the leg pulling method I felt fire through my legs and into my lower back. My testimony might not mean allot, but i was abruptly set free from a 30year porn & lust addiction, by Susan healing is for everywhere, not just outside the church. Now that says to me that maybe those people throwing charlatan accusations had best be careful how they choose to voice their skepticism because if this is the work of the Holy Spirit, and I believe it is, then you are in a lot of trouble. `And beginning with Moses & with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the scriptures.` It is plain heresy. 2000 years agp the worldly people called Yeshuas followers Christians. Paul was using both water and Spirit so many times in his epistles It boils down to: YOU DONT KNOW HOW GOD OPERATES AND YOU NEVER WILL. Jhn 17:14 NASB I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 'This is Going to Come to America': Evangelist Forced to Flee Denmark and Seek Asylum in US, Evangelist Torben Sndergaard's Wife Says Her Husband Was Not Arrested for 'Smuggling' or Any Other Crime, Mom Chooses Life on an Abortionist's Table, Finally Meets Her Grateful Son 2 Decades Later and the Tears Flow, 'The Chosen' Creators Announce Season 3 Finale to Premiere in Theaters Nationwide - The Reaction Is Stunning, Viral Video: Mall Security Guard Tells Man Wearing 'Jesus Saves' T-Shirt 'Take It Off Or Leave', 'All Glory to GOD!' Can worn them of sin & bondage without feeling like a hypocrite Keep standing strong in the Lord and preaching and demonstrating the Truth in these last days. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Jesus did a lot of disappearing acts.TELEPORTATION. Barry Schmidt said: I remembered how many times in gospels it says, they came to Jesus to. Or they brought to Jesus a man who. We dont have to make it happen- God will bring people to Jesus IN US if only we will yield to Jesus and let Him use us!!! I found Jesus as MY SAVIOR in DEC. 1959 and remember then how God moved and we seen miracles that the young today question . We want Christianity to go back to the New Testament and the life we read about in the Book of Acts. Torben Sondergaard is paired with his delightful wife, Lene Sondergaard. Aarons rod that buddedmiraculously. Both of these ditches are equally dangerous. . The manna that came down from heaven.miraculously. Jhn 17:19 NASB For their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they themselves also may be sanctified in truth. Then what am I crying for? Person will mostly manifest a demon (Satan has to put on a show after all). Sndergaard is the founder of The Last Reformation, a worldwide movement that seeks to return Christianity to the Book of Acts. it was very common in the early church and i just studed Jude , one chapter . The word was that Denmark would become known as the Pool of Bethesda. Please take a look. Here is a website for more information on what I am talking about: https://www.friendsoftorben.com/ And this video while you're at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeJyr0DKyms Spread the word! All I can say is that if Paul twice said he feared for the church of Corinth, then it shouId be ok for us to feel similar concern as well when it is warranted. Finally, Andrew you know I appreciate your zeal and commitment for what you do. ! There is no time like the present. Click the gear icon at the bottom right corner of the comment box, then click EDIT. Torben dunks these people in trash cans how insulting!Those that defend this man, are his Cult Members and they have no problem threatening those that speak out against him. And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs. a brief video (above) where Torben discusses the amazing things that Acts 14:10-15 For all those caught up in this demonic mess and want to be set free please read this article: Seeking Salvation or Deliverance? If God be for us who can be against us, yet the alternate to this is get behind me satan/carnal mind, you do not savor the things of God. Last point, going back to the Pharisees, it seems to me that Jesus said that sins against the Son of Man would be forgiven but that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit wouldnt be. There isnt any! ". Elijah prayed ONE SENTENCE and fire instantly fell from God. I hate those gift inventories for this reason. If a man comes performing miracles in Jesus name but preaches idols- money, ambition, love of the world and anything in the world money, sensuality, power or selfish ambition- THAT MAN IS A WOLF! Andrew J I have been very specific and clear about the problems I have with Bill Johnson. To your credit, you were honest and admitted as such. It is just as deadly This is what has happened throughout history and is nothing new. Andthere arethreethat bear witnessinearth,the Spirit,andthe water,andthe blood:andthese threeagreeinone. In early church for a season it was said of the Lords work which became so prevalent , This gospel is spreading to more and more people so that everyone in Asia Minor has heard about it and from that time forward the name of Jesus became greatly feared amoung all the poeple and this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world and then the end will come.. I was only allowed to cry for a few minutes and God took the reins and pulled back my emotions and said, I have him. You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him. None of these biblical miracles are present in WIERDSVILLE only out of control laughter, strange behaviors, hyper spirituality and complete powerless human sorcery . And we are not of weak faith when we weep and plead with the Father on somebodys behalf or stick our neck out to warn. We find that the change from the book of Acts was imposed by the roman catholic system, The major issue is that we are dealing with the spirit realm and we can have confusion if we touch the unclean thing the unclean thing is an idol, In spiritual confusion demons operate as angels of light, and they will operate in the gifts of the spirit but the spirit is of the enemy. Torben is a preacher, teacher, and author who was born in 1976 in Herning, Denmark. If a person is suffering, I would rejoice that their suffering is over. I have never see one video (much less the one with Torben) providing evidence of objective healings. [url removed]. preached. After watching the second video, I can see the value of praying with people after talking to them about Jesus. That is why we need to take care when posting our judgmental thoughts without first checking things out properly. Andrew, why do you attack the truth in the age of deception? Ample scriptures indicate that they will appear as ministers of the gospel, not ministers of the enemy. Did they do this? I was also to understand that the reason people have these emotions for so long, is because they do not understand death, and how LIFE comes from it. Because you will be lying to yourself and worst of all God Himself. We begged my unbelieving husband to let us pray for him. This move of God will be marked by love, unselfconscious holiness, fullness of joy and deep loyalty to Jesus and to each other . They had prayed for sick people before but sometimes God heals and sometimes He just takes them home to glory. It stole this new zealous believers faith, and he stopped seeing such wondrous miracles. I am so full of matter about how the church today is so cynical. The GLORY is the TANGIBLE MANIFESTATION OF THE PRESENCE OF GOD AND HIS NATURE. God is doing a work in all believers. His organization, The Last Reformation, has been described as extreme, dangerous and a cult by former followers, former board members of the organization, the press, other churches, and professionals. Got kids?Yes.This man needs to be able to make a living. So I hope we will pray for these brothers that they will be able to stand and remain in simplicity when the enemy comes, that the fear of the Lord would be the beginning of wisdom in every area and situation. A creator, a public speaker, a faith healer, and a Danish Christian evangelist named Torben Sondergaard has stated that God addressed him directly. 23:25). A few weeks later the man came back, bringing about 200 people with him, telling many at the meeting that he had gotten his old job back. Are you serious? Again something inside me drive me to ask if she was related to someone who had a 275 pound tumor. Redacted government documents surrounding his arrest can be viewed here at friendsoftorben.com. John 6:15 We warn our children not to do things with their safety in mind but we dont call in fearmongering! He was baptized as a baby in the state church and later confirmed, but it was only because of tradition. We dont just sit back and say well God will take care of everybody so I dont have to be concerned or do at thing. A Florida immigration judge has denied evangelist Torben Sndergaard's request for asylum. The Holy Spirit does NOT base this on how HOLY a person is. Luk 9:50 KJV And Jesus said unto him, FORBID HIM NOT: for he that is not against us IS FOR US. ha ha ha The old COIN TRICK! Exd 4:3 KJV And he said, Cast it on the ground. And the reality is that it is warranted a lot so we cant afford to let down our guard. Just confuses people. Im really excited about God doing miracles in EvangelismBut like someone else already pointed out: Shouldnt one also combine these Healings with the Gospel of Repentance? All of us instantly felt heat like a fire go through us all. December 26, 2022 This is the second episode of a series around the persecution of Torben Sondergaard, a Check it out Dr. Michael Brown Interviews Torben Sondergaard January 14, 2023 An interview from prison with Torben Sondergaard and his immigration lawyer Michelle C Snchez, P.A. He has regard for all. Even in our disagreements we need to be glorifying God in all that we do. But I have If it happened on the Day of Pentecost, who said that it would never happen again? Torben Soendergaard was booked on Thursday June, 30th, 2022 . I mean lets get serious now, how many of you reading this article thought to yourself, why do they get this gift and I dont? I dont even have the right words for the understanding that I do have, or think I have. I went to a conference of Rick Joyners where women with extremely long hair writhed on the floor like serpents (these women were allowed on stage). Jesus had no thought of creating an organization or formal group around Himself, nor did he teach disciples to form any such organized group. Attributing some of the esoteric and bizzare paychotic behavior manifestations of the historic revivals ( which was highly suspect in the eyes of most revival leaders of previous generations) AS NORMAL. A bad tree CAN NOT bear good fruit nor can a good tree bear bad fruit. Torben Sondergaard Calls the Line of Fire from PrisonDr. Andrew, you and your followers are in huge trouble. He and his family fled Denmark in 2019, fearing persecution and arrest following a harassment campaign by the government and media. When man comes in and says look what we have done and is proud of that which has been done, then pride has entered in. are washed away in a few minutes. I heard it from a preacher some years ago. Torben Sondergaard was detained as a national threat for bringing firearms into the country. He is SUPERNATURAL AND MYSTERIOUS. Playing and mimicking what only Jesus can do like cheap Elvis impersonators! 2) to fear, be afraid of one The Cloud of Glory Presence led them by day. Upon Sndergaard's arrival in the U.S. in 2019, he immediately applied for asylum and set up his residence in California while he grew his ministry. Why cant people see this? 17 minutes of a guy basically saying be healed in Jesus name and they are better. Would love your thoughts, please comment. (Acts 19:4) Then said Paul,John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.. The flip side is we did these things in your name and Jesus replied depart from me you workers of lawlessness. Each time they went into battle, THEY INQUIRED OF THE LORD and the Lord told them to put the Ark of the Lord in front of them..and VOILA..they won the battle. It is always Christ plus something else (usually new age). Never! God doesnt like strange fire being mixed with His; its very distasteful. Spirit of FIRE enters person and they start to speak in tongues, convulse, jerk, have visions, etc. Jhn 17:11 NASB I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. The Lord Himself showed His disciples, Step 5. He touched the ear of the servant of the high priest. and also WITH the author of Hebrews. Praise the Lord! But I dont think he forbids us either to learn and talk about what scripture teaches us, concerning not profaning the holy things (specifically miracles) and where it can lead, especially where miracles are taking place. I have no agenda other to please Him. 2 Thess. The fact that He never did such things was not simply that He wanted to make his followers honest and sincere, but also because He was communicating Life, and building a kingdom not of this world or according to its principles. Im actually surprised the way Andrew responded. The things of God are too precious to be treated as common. chas351.Thank you for your Jonathan Welton post. a) to be troubled with cares Where was the encouragement to `know Him more?`, I hope that as you read that misinformation that you will realise that it is not pointing us to our precious Lord, but just a confusing He avoided being arrested in 2019. It is not his teachings that I have flagged so much. Sndergaard and his family fled Denmark in 2019, fearing persecution and arrest following a harassment campaign by the government and media. It is the anointing that he wants to transfer onto people. My only goal here is to honor and glorify our Lord Jesus, not to attack anyone. And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before it. Thats why we view every news story through the lens of faith. Excerpt taken from Your Power In The Holy Spirit By John G Lake. For me the thing that sets Torbin apart from the previous spiritual streams of the supernatural ( of which Bill Johnson is possibly the biggest a distributor of and that statement isnt evaluating Johnsons authenticity as a child of God- but just an objective fact) Nonetheless- the differene e between Torbin and this previous stream IS THAT TORBIN MOVES IN APIRITUAL POWER AND GIFTS WITHOUT DESCENDING INTO WIERDSVILLE!!!! Judge Yon Alberdi, an appointee of Obama Attorney General Eric Holder, ruled Sndergaard did not meet the requirements for asylum. I think he purposely included those leg lengthening healings to scandalize and expose the hearts of the skeptics. When my dad died, I lost it and wept, my emotions were running wild and I was broken. Error: There was an internal error submitting your form. `in His right hand He held the 7 sealed book.`, This shows the reconciliative advocacy of the exalted Son of Man. Lets compare this to what Torben is doing. The government then investigated the Sndergaard family when they began homeschooling. Jesus tempered the enthusiasm of the disciples by saying not to rejoice in the demons submitting to us but to only rejoice that our names be written in the Lambs book of life. Yes, Andrew, any trickster can appear to do miracles. Everything about those involved will be ordinary and normal EXCEPT GOD ALMIGHTY WILL BE POWERFULLY PRESENT in supernatural demonstrations of miracle working power, deep heartfelt repentance and devotion to Jesus. This supernatural revival among the normal ordinary folk that I prophesied about is waiting for us to cease from our religious striving, place all our hope and confidence in Jesus alone plus nothing of ourselves, surrender and yield to the Holy Spirit who will come like a pent up flood when we do. I agree with Rev. 5)HIS WORD IS ALIVE AND ACTIVE IN ME, (Jesus Christ is called The Word of God Rev 19:13 NASB He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.). Doves dung represents a past movement of the Holy Spirit, a great revival from the past, but now long dead, that has been denomination-alized in the attempt to keep it alive beyond its time. The Art of Revelation by Jonathan Welton (Intro, Chapter 1 & 2) Start that IN ME MY GOD!!!! i They have also filed a defamation lawsuit against a North Carolina man who Sndergaard's legal team claims has been publishing false information about the Danish preacher. If those like Torden are burdened to go and minister to the streets to glorify the risen Lord, who would prevent it? Trenton D. Adams said: Lets see a man with no leg, and see that grow out., A healing like that is documented to have taken place in the Azusa street revival in 1908, Excerpt taken from Azusa Street, They Told Me Their Stories I would have liked to post what God showed me about Emma the angel being a demon. Sndergaard has been heldin a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) jail, the Baker County Facility in MacClenny, Florida, since his arrest in June. You strain a gnat an swallow a camel! We dont rely on one event or one experience as the whole crux of our spiritual salvation. I knew it would not be wise to thus lay my hands upon the sick woman, as I was likely to jar her. Bill Johnson can not save anyone, only God can. (Luke 5: 13) signs/wonders (using the gifts given us) will follow and subsequently souls saved for the Kingdom. of hyper-grace and hyper-charismania. I used to think I was proud when I filled those out because I moved in every gift regularly Then I realized its NOT MY GIFTINGS BUT JESUS IN ME! I did nothing of myself ! Ha, ha, ha! Watch this video about the people of God revealing the glory of God and you too will do the works of Jesus: http://youtu.be/03hWzOCzZ9k. But God has` His keys,`for studying His Word. Jesus Himself came back to give us this message in Rev 7:14 These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washedtheirrobes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.. I do not consider any of the miracles Jesus did in any way wierd. There have been times that you have fallen prey to allowing your zeal to post a story that was later found out to be untrue or not of the Lord. He prayed for every sick person in his extended family, sick people related to friends and acquaintances, etc. So called religious devotion and zeal initiated by man IS UNHOLY AND PROFANE regardless out good intentions! Or worst, you are possibly even demon possessed according to Torben and this is what is blocking the false Holy Spirit from entering you and baptising you in FIRE. I think a quiet and humble response like this would be most appropriate: Sir (or Maam), what happened has nothing to do with me. My email is jmesfjarjou@yahoo.com in case you dont want yours to be public you can send me directly if that is ok with you. This means we ALREADY HAVE THIS REVIVAL LIGHT OF JESUS IN US SHINING! The prophets of baal danced, shouted and cut themselves for hours in order to try and get fire down from Heaven to consume the sacrifice. For those who accuse us of being guilty for following and receiving the Holy Scriptures promise in Acts, then we guilty as charged. everything. It is unwarranted accusation and nit-picking. Sndergaard regards receiving the Holy Spirit as having substituted receiving Jesus.[25]. Heres what the Pharisees and Scribes thought of Jesus ministry: Matthew 12:24 Awesome testimony, Barry Schmidt. I know that Im sticking my neck out with this post but I cannot remain silent on this issue . Hebrews 6:1-2(KJV) Says doctrines of Christ, and then uses a word Baptisms, yes go look it up, its plural. But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. Are you willing to turn from your sins and put your faith / hope / trust in Jesus Christ? happen when this is done. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Minister Starker. Jesus so many times told those He had healed to tell no-one. Jesus condemned the Pharisees not because they did not belong to His group, but because of their hypocrisy, untruthfulness and lack of love. David repentance is exactly what Torben preaches. We need to be discerning in love, yet remain true to Gods Word. Andrew J, at least you dont call Bill Johnson a cancer on the Body of Christ! What I will do differently than what I saw in the first video is to not make a big deal about what happened if God heals them. Yes, Jesus is the same yesterday, today & tomorrow. (Hebrews 9:22). she told me she normally weighed less than 150 pounds but with the growing tumor she weighed over 400 pounds . However, when I have sinned and defiled my soul, I MUST go to Jesus and plead with Him to wash me with his blood. My experience has shown me that a manifested miracle of God will always shake people who do not believe because it is not logical or normal and will cause brains who do not believe to go haywire for short period of time because logical dots will not connect with supernatural dots. I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. Wow Paul, how dare you suggest that water baptism is not a central part of the Gospel of God? If on the other hand a man (like Torbin) comes doing miracles in Jesus name preached the message of the cross of Christ , calls for repentance and faith alone in Christ Jesus and whose godly lifestyle can be verified by those in the community who have know him personally THAT MAN IS SENT BY GOD! Thank God for this man from Scandinavia who was prepared to get out the boat and walk on water! There were plenty of opportunities for this to be mentioned in the New Testament, but we never see it happening. The Last Reformation . This why I said that you dont know me and you know absolutely nothing of my life. A friend of mine said that it is unimportant how we baptize our job is just to save sinners. this is new age worship of another false Jesus, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pvdl8HDmkA. He tells us to wait, to wait in our Jerusalem for the power from on high, for the spirits unction and then to go out. He wanted all men to come to Him and have koinonia with Him, but He did not intend that those did come Him should have any exclusive group around Him. I just watched the original video after reading and watching the second video. The doctor in charge was an atheist and so outraged by it all that he destroyed the medical files and even the record of the man being admitted. (Psalm 34:8 NASB), What you have been through with your mother has strengthened your faith and established the hunger in you to see this established this healing this fullness of what is promised in the atonement in the world in which you live, Lift him up so that he experiences this practically himself and out of the overflow is overflowing Your Power through him to others, to everyone he comes in contact with , Love you brother, the Lord will link you into a team with others who also have this on their heart in your location wherever He takes you . And hopefully nobody will misunderstand and think you are accusing these young men of wrongdoing. So the Hebrews ASSUMED THEY KNEW GODS FORMULA FOR SUCCESS. Correction Jesus MULTIPLIED BREAD AND FISH in a sleight of hand. spread the word! Roger yes this has been going on perpetually but there are seasons in history where this ordinary supernatural normal hits the mainstream of the populace and other seasons where it wins and is obscured to small pockets. We are to give witness to the resurrection of Jesus Christ, that He is alive in us doing the same works and even greater works. The Lord has put His Teachings (laws) in our hearts where we do not have to ask others but will know inherently His Will Hebrews 8:10, Jeremiah 31:33-34. He suggested some excercises for a posture problem. Many of us do of course but not in the main. I love that statement you said, `the simplicity that is in Christ.` Boy! Unfortunately, all we have to test the spirits with is the video. That is a place where the sick could experience salvation and healing. Lol We dont have to obey the law because the Father himself now tells us what is right and what is wrong. He loves those hungry believers. I believe we are moving In a Direction where everyone is going to say Truly God has visited us! I believe we will see believers so full of Gods spirit walk into a Veterans hospital and heal every amputee and solider who has lost a limb or body part. God is new every morning and so is His Holy Spirit leading. The unveiling is the culmination of all truths expressed from Genesis to Revelation, for all scripture is centred on one purpose & that is to reveal Christ to us in all His glory. My suggestion would be to lose the first video. He may have started well, got saved and followed Jesus but he as well, like many others got deceived and now is leading thousands to destruction. It is not a judgment nor an accusation, we have seen so little of the body of Christ functioning in the many various giftings that we dont know the difference any more. He regards the distressing circumstances of the poor widows. 2Corinth 13:1. He fixed my brokenness. When they came back to the disciples, they saw a large crowd around them, and some scribes arguing with them. a) (Qal) And if you do say that and you are wrong then you will be blaspheming the Holy Spirit. I have just posted a brief video (above) where Torben discusses the amazing things that happen when this is done. If we dont learn from history we are bound to repeat it. I continued to suffer pain for almost another year, before going to a chiropractor, where I was first x-rayed, then we discussed my history. God uses His Word to instill the truth within our hearts. There are other keys but it is good to get used to using one for awhile first. Tags: Baptism of the Holy SpiritKundaliniLast ReformationSpeaking in TonguesTorben Sndergaard. As Ive stated before, true miracles and miraculous healings are not subject to debate as they are objective and cannot be challenged. The gangrene is gone; you are healed. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section. Let the cheap Jesus impersonations cease! He knows the grief of a wounded spirit. Jesus said many will come in His name, saying that He is Christ. Danish TV infiltrated his ministry with undercover reporters for a documentary titled God's Best Children, which lumped Sndergaard in with other leaders of so-called "radical Christian" ministries who had had serious moral or ethical failures or even criminal activity. As I thought about this story of unchurched people coming to US I remembered how many times in gospels it says, they came to Jesus to. Or they brought to Jesus a man who. We dont have to make it happen- God will bring people to Jesus IN US if only we will yield to Jesus and let Him use us!!! This is what deception is all about. And He asked them, What are you discussing with them? And one of the crowd answered Him, Teacher, I brought You my son, possessed with a spirit which makes him mute; and whenever it seizes him, it slams him to the ground and he foams at the mouth, and grinds his teeth and stiffens out. Torben Sndergaard is founder of The Last Reformation, a movement that has spread all around the world the last few years. I still have a lot on my heart regarding TLR, the kickstarts, etc. If I refused to rejoice, I would have no ask myself some serious questions about who I serve. Also available on most smart TVs and streaming services. It is very glorifying to God to see His manifold wisdom displayed in manifold ways through His many people. So the real test is that you will react to something the way Jesus wants you to react, and you are unable to do that if you dont always listen and obey. : of, relating to, or caused by witchcraft OR THE SUPERNATURAL : magical I recall witnessing two of the greatest miracles where Seymour was greatly used by God. Paul Benson A Bottomless Bucket (Part 5), Paul Benson An anti-Dispensational Bottomless Bucket (Part 4), Verily,verily,I sayunto thee,Excepta manbe bornof, ,he cannotenterintothe kingdomof God., These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have, Latter Rain Teaching / Dominionism / Kingdom Now, page recently and I find it very interesting, https://www.youtube.com/user/DanishEvangelist, The Biblical Holy Spirit vs. It has scripture and some Biblical things, but it also has a lot of mixture which includes new age positive thinking and pyschosomatic techniques. 3) to inspire reverence or godly fear or awe HEALED VIA YOUTUBE! Pass This Video On! Wheres the beef in WIERDSVILLE ? c) to reverence, venerate, to treat with deference or reverential obedience. Help us continue to be a voice for truth in the media by supporting CBN News for as little as $1. OFFICIAL UPDATE ON TORBEN SONDERGAARD: January 17, 2023. EVERY sin and iniquity can be traced back to NOT BELIEVING 1 or any number of these 5 statements below. Great stuff! That is what makes it an exciting journey. comments that try to pick apart every aspect of them. He claims that " about 90 percent of all the people, that he or others in his team pray for, are healed". Sondergaard, as he prayed for the sick on the streets and in the I perceive a very tiny bit of pride, but only the amount I would expect from any believer. www.TheLastReformation.com Torben Sndergaard | Orlando FL Sndergaard and his family fled Denmark in 2019, fearing persecution and arrest following a harassment campaign by the government and media. I am very wary of Him, indeed. Finally, he came up with the idea of just going from room to room in the hospital to pray for people. www.TheLastReformation.com Torben Sndergaard | Orlando FL The tone of these responses is very disturbing. It is Christ that God would have us focus on & not trying to prove that it is all history. If we just go by what we think the Holy Spirit is saying we can over ride Him in our carnal thinking, or if we just rely on our thoughts of the Word we also get into trouble. I am so excited to watch this, to see how Torbin is excited ,not about himself but about what God is doing. Subtley shifting the focus away from the divine purpose of revival from repentance and faith in Jesus alone towards centralizing and making WIRRDSVILLE the main objective of revival. And this sin of jealousy among other sins such as wanting the power to speak to God in an unknown language that makes the believer feel that because he/she can now speak in tongues they are on another spiritual level or more powerful than those who cant, and dont tell me you have never thought of this! I just read Luke 7 where Jesus raises the widows son from the dead and great fear and rejoicing fell on all the crowd. It would seem to me that they possess the redemption of God and now God can display His righteousness through them. But it is patently obvious to me from listening to him preach and reading his statement of faith on his local congregations website that he does know and believe and love the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ he knows He is God and he knows He is Lord I am not saying that he is perfect, I am not saying that everything he does or endorses is right or perfect but if we see such a one who loves our Lord Jesus Christ endorsing or doing something which we dont believe to be right or true what is our response to be? No I dont regret calling it a sad reaction. Jesus said, Let your light shine His Pioneer School videos elucidate the full gospel including repentance, water baptism, Spirit baptism, and evangelism with healing, casting out demons, and signs and wonders. To show this . Step 3. Acknowledge means to yada/know Him intimately. I believe Torben has been shown a number of things that are So when Moses comes back down the mountain the second time his face shone and he would hide it because the glory would fade. Thank you Lord. 4 Then said Paul, John truly baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying to the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. This goes for others also, not just Trenton, who have commented on Bill Johnson in this thread above, When you make comments about people who are actually your brothers and sisters in the Lord and say publically that they are not and condemn and run them down you are actually condemning and running down Jesus because He stands with them He is one spirit with them just as He is one spirit with you if you belong to Him, When you do this you fight against yourself, So if you cant say, The Holy Spirit told me regarding Bill Johnson in a negative way then I suggest that you dont say anything negative about him at all but take your concerns to the Lord in prayer and support him in prayer, I dont sense from any of the comments made by anyone above about Bill Johnson that any of you (commenters) have done this, But this is what scripture tells you to do, If you think you are spiritual then you are meant to be able to restore someone who you think is caught in a fault with a spirit of meekness thats the proof of your spirituality I dont see that in the comments made about Bill Johnson above, We need to be careful we are those who believe in the Lord one family. I saw a lady several weeks later who looked like this lady but because this lady was a normal size I thought it might be her sister . b) caring or providing for. Remove the hardness and scar tissues of doubt, unbelief, ungodly fear and incredulity we recieved from those days of past deception. The lawsuit states the belief that Sndergaard's arrest by a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement(ICE) officerwas based on "anonymous tips" that "originated from (the) Defendant's misinformation.". Note the reference in the NT to the elders laying on of hands on the sick. Indeed we are one body, a living organsim, having one head (Lord Jesus), with the body having many diverse members, each with differing giftings and callings, as determined by the one Holy Spirit. HOW NOT TO GAIN ENTRANCE THROUGH HEAVENS GATES? They all responded that truly God has come to Israel.. I DOUBT IT! (Mark 9:14, 16-18 NASB). Tom Lessing and Deborah Ellish both own Discerning the World. The bogus so called leg lengthening trick pulled off by the magicians is THE COPYCAT -never the other way around. Watchful..I found where Paul makes that statement about FEARING for the church in Corinth. Well, after reading about their prophetic training ministry (which is almost identical to Rick Joyners) and reading the SOZO handbook (which is new age mixed with Christianity for Johnsons healing rooms) and many testimonies, I have more than enough to warn my friend. Yet there is unity in this diversity, as long as we see Christ Jesus our Lord as the reason for our unity. The only reason I havent is that Andrew vouches for him and I know Andrews heart. Just like the It didnt work. Exd 4:6 KJV And the LORD said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. As of 2022, Lene is currently 46 years old and was born on April 5, 1976. Officials found nothing wrong. And yet He said, But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! (Luke 12:50). And this growing awareness of the many gifts and parts of the body has opened a window on seeing Christ in others, it is truly humbling. I really liked the video. http://www.apostasywatch.com/Wolves/WolfReports/BillJohnsonBethelChurchReddingCa/WARNINGBILLJOHNSONandBETHELCHURCH/tabid/260/Default.aspx. His mother really meant a lot to him and when he heard this bad news he cried and cried and then he prayed to God. They do nothing themselves. 38 And now I say to you, keep away from these men and let them alone; for if this plan or this work is of men, it will come to nothing; 39 but if it is of God, you cannot overthrow itlest you even be found to fight against God.. Final thought to underline what I wrote earlier. Each person has their own homemade version/definition of what that means. It is a flow of the Living Waters of the Spirit Himself when our SELF/FLESH BOWS DOWN AND SURRENDERS. His reply? The KINDness of God with that authenticity of seed in the fruit and not fruit alone. You can be ashamed of that name if you want but I will gladly bear the reproach of that wonderful name any day! Jhn 17:16 NASB They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Torben Sondergaard is a Danish pastor who is facing extraordinary persecution for exercising his Christian faith. No one ever questioned the authenticity of these healings. Look at the FAITH shown in His Prayer of John 17. Brother Seymour asked the crowd, Would you like to see God have a wonderful time here tonight? Sndergaard's attorneys are filing an appeal. And the time has come to start in that direction. If you dont believe that my testing of the spirits is being done in a biblical manner, then maybe you could suggest what you believe would be a proper biblical way to test the spirits. In the NT, Jesus is dealing with 1 demoniac at a time.in one instance (the herd of pigs incident) there were 2 demoniacs. As I came out from under Rick Joyners Morning Star Ministries school for the prophetic, I see very many similarities from the teachings in that school to the teachings in Johnsons school. No, If Bill Johnston belongs to the Lord as I know that he does (I have been praying for him interceding for him I know that God has a plan for him in the USA) and you say that he doesnt and worse you say that he is a false prophet, a false teacher and a false evangelist (if thats what youre saying) when his heart is actually set on the Lord and to the best of his current knowledge he is serving the Lord if you say that when in reality he has been born of God, knows that Jesus is God and is his Lord then I believe this following scripture applies to you (and to anyone else who agrees with you), But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another. Christs church is not some debate club and we must then try to win the debate. Read what Jesus Christ had to say (RIGHT FROM HIS OWN LIPS) about it here: Mar 9:38 KJV And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils IN THY NAME, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. However, I dont perceive any self motivation from Torben. 13:5). OFFICIAL UPDATE ON TORBEN SONDERGAARD: January 17, 2023. Just because there are counterfeits, is no reason to deny when God does something. 1.Repent(turn back) to the Father Jhn 17:12 NASB While I was with them, I WAS KEEPING THEM in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled. It is the I arose to go to him but found my body was trembling so violently that I had great difficulty in walking across the room, and especially in controlling the trembling of my hands and arms. This man needs to work and he needs to be able to pay his tithe. If and when I ever go public with my deeds, then you can test me to see if it is of the Lord. Therefore, when the scripture talks about bringing GLORY to the Lord; GLORIFYING the Lord etc etc 2 Thess 2:7-12 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. Its time to do an article on this guy. Many people have asked me what I know about Danish evangelist Torben Sondergaard, the founder of the Last Reformation movement, and whether he's part of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). To reveal Christ to us in Revelation, there are 330 references to the figures, shadows, types, patterns, persons & buildings of the Old Testament. (Hebrews 13:8 NASB). Update from Friends of Torben. And Christ is still healing, comforting, bearing our sorrows & griefs, through Torben, Barry, you & me & thousands upon thousands throughout the world. Jesus often did. The Last Reformation is a global movement founded by Torben Sondergaard. When the people of faith resort to a charletans trick of claiming to grow legs, when a persons swivel of the hip or stretching forth of their leg makes it seem as though Yeshua is in the ministry of stretching legs out an extra half inch. But it takes a lot of hard work, time, and money to do what we do. After ministry, the leg grew out. He then slapped his hands on the shoulder itself and commanded the arm to grow out. I just said, Lord I surrender to Thy will in this household.. Die letzte Reformation (berarbeitete Neuausgabe 2020) - Buch (Paperback) von Sndergaard, Torben | GloryWorld-Medien | Besuchen Sie uns online unter www.buchhaus.ch oder in einer unserer Buchhandlungen. All of his pants were tailored to reflect that. Also available on most smart TVs and streaming services. Exd 16:10 KJV And it came to pass, as Aaron spake unto the whole congregation of the children of Israel, that they looked toward the wilderness, and, behold, the GLORY of the LORD APPEARED in the cloud. So I am going to be featuring a lot more of Torbens stuff on here. Repentance doesnt end at salvation. Sectarians are those who would make fellowship with Christ their exclusive privilege. We continue on and learn until the day we exit to Eternity. We have all learned those past lessons of gullibility and stupidity in embracing that charismatic sorcery. Lets see why: Baptism in water was for Jewish unbelievers. One day, after they had put GOD IN A BOX, they did not INQUIRE OF THE LORD and just took the Ark of the Lord and put it in front of them and went into battle. [3] Torben Sndergaard (1976-) is a Danish Christian evangelist, self-proclaimed apostle, and faith healer, who claims to receive revelations and visions directly from God. Seymour spoke with a man who had lost his arm ten years earlier through a work-related accident. Another thought in regard to your important statement `the simplicity of Christ,` is that it leads us to focussing on the `true,` as Andrew Strom has encouraged us to do. When you are born again you are automaticallySPIRITUALLYbaptised by Jesus Christ onto the One and Only baptism there is, where after the Holy Spirit comes to live in you. Torbens testimonies and teachings have increased my faith and given me confirmation. And Jesus, being conscious that something had flowed from Him, said to Peter, Who touched Me?, Peter replied, Why, Master, You see the crowd, and do You still ask, Who touched Me?, I know somebody touched Me, He said, for I perceive that virtue has gone out of Me. (See Mark 5:2534.) But I guess repentance is too much to hope for. Why fear testing if what you say is true. I hear people say we GLORIFY You, Lord, Glory to the Lord, give GLORY to the Lord, if it GLORIFIES the Lord etc etc. Billy Graham and Billy Sunday started it all they would preach for an hour, sing, and do the invitation. The Pioneer School (online) - Torben Sondergaard is the evangelist from Denmark whose Last Reformation movement now spans worldwide. A wooden staff that turns into a snake. Show me an authentic video of that happening with the person healed repenting and declaring Jesus as Lord; then Ill agree that the Spirit has met the test and passed. Those that dont see what this man is doing, are not filled with the Holy Spirit. But it seems they had not spiritual fathers to teach them to temper themselves, and no watchmen to watch their backs, just accolades after accolades and pats on the back and a pedestal to stand upon, and so now we see the sad results. Rather than analyse He is excited to share with others what GOD is doing. 5. One of these deceivers is Torben Sondergaard from last reformation so-called. The MOLECULES in Jesus body dis-assembled and went through a wall and then re-assembled. We never see any of the apostles commissioning new believers to go out and do this. You cannot use this passage to validate water baptism. She told me after my helper prayed for her she began to sit in the toilet for the next two weeks and urinate that tumor out of her body. However, I watched the second video first. He even said that it doesnt really work in the church and that it is easier to believe for someone to be healed that you are never going to see again. It has got to the point where I can hardly Torben makes friends for himself and not for the Living Resurrected Lord of all. Yet, what I did, I did in the Holy NAME of JESUS, under the authority of the Son of God, the Lamb of God, the remitter of my sins, and the only NAME wherein we can be saved. Just because someone says Lord, Lord, does not mean he is a child of God. 3 And he said to them, To what then were you baptized? Do you remember the incident of the woman who touched the hem of Jesus garment? Sure there will be people who say Lord did we not cast out demons, heal the sick etc. Torben Sondergaard is a self-proclaimed apostle and faith healer from Denmark who claims to receive revelations and visions directly from God. I really dont think hes a charlatan, I just think we SERIOUSLY need to consider not doing things that look like trickery. TheDude, the reason I asked you if you do obey the Lord and do everything Jesus tells you to do was not for examples , but as a type of test to see if you are able to say yes. Here is your test- Bitter and sweet water do not flow forth from the same fountain. New Testament Christianity right before your eyes. http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/orrel46.pdf. Share on telegram. John 9:4 The male, with a recorded age of 45 was arrested for suspicion of the below crimes: Bail has been set to $0 for Soendergaard which is listed as a white male. Torben in that instance yes, because their baptism was a baptism unto repentance, now they had to be baptised by the Holy Spirit into believing in Christ Jesus. Andrew and Torben, you are positively RIGHT ON! Knowing how His whole being, His whole nature, radiated that wondrous, blessed life of God of which He was Himself the living manifestation, she said within herself, If I can but touch His garment, I shall be healed. (See Matthew 9:21; Mark 5:28.) We have to go forward into the `true,` thing.`. TELEPORTING WAS USED OFTEN in the NT. healings and miracles, etc. Stephen St. Louis..your post was SO on target. January 18, 2023 3:58 am Videos; Home. How sad it will be ONE DAY AFTER HIS COMING but for many it will be TOO LATE. See here:Pentecostalism. God always has and always will place things in the midst of His miracles that cause the insincere and the sceptic to be scandalized over and can be interpreted as either genuine or a scam. Yesterday I posted some advice to these dear brothers to run away from the spotlight, from cameras, and from those who would try to make them kings, but it looks like I may have forgotten to hit the send buttonthat was the wisdom the Lord gave to me in a flash yesterday and sought to share it. How could a man break 4 to 6 inches of hard sapphire? Upon his arrival in the U.S. in 2019, Sndergaard immediately applied for asylum and set up his residence in California while he grew his ministry. I agree that Christ is the focus, and that He is the key actually (Key of David) and also that the Holy Spirit is our guide and teacher, amen. Thank you for the clarification Andrew! We are never too young or too old to learn more about Jesus and the Father. Our church is starting to get into witnessing on the street and giving out gospel tracts and such. And to go forward into the `true,` is to `know Christ more,` as the Apostle Paul & Roger, here, have encouraged us to do. Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today, and forever! Foras many of you ashave been baptizedintoChristhave put onChrist. Since the whole of the scriptures CONDEMNS BEING FEARFUL, ANXIOUS AND WORRIED, then I would have to say that Paul was of weak faith when it came to the letter he was writing. back there. Why cant people see this? Each and every one of us How different Jesus was from those sectarians who, like the Scribes and Pharisees, search sea and land to make a member of their group, only to make him twice as much the child of Hell as themselves (Matt. I believe we are moving In a Direction where everyone is going to say Truly God has visited us! I believe we will see believers so full of Gods spirit walk into a Veterans hospital and heal every amputee and solider who has lost a limb or body part. Thats it. June 30th, 2022 by Crime Informer. Revealing Truth 49.6K subscribers Torben Sondergaard of the Last Reformation is a false teacher on many topics and has now been arrested for potential gun smuggling. Sondergaard claims to be an apostle and healer of the faith. One day, when he was 16, his mother had a stroke. If we start treating them as playthings and as idols, then we are as those trying to carry and play with fire with bare hands, and I have been a witness of this. Just a glimpse of God`s great work. `to go forward into the `true` thing.`. We are committed to delivering quality independent Christian journalism you can trust. This has all transpired over the course of 8 weeks. See also John 1:12-13. 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