The judgement is already given and the case is close. Hey Mo.First of all, why the F*CK are you commenting on an anti-thiest website created by infidel kafir non believers?!? It has often been the first in the region to implement certain steps, such as specialist courts for certain types of disputes and a class action regime for . Judicial floggings continued in 1997. In a May 2008 opinion column in Arab News, it was claimed that lashes were now being given out by traffic police, presumably meaning "on the spot" and without a court sentence. The Law of the Judiciary issued by Royal Decree No. The SCCA shall communicate the Notice of Arbitration to the Respondent as per the Arbitration Rules and request a response as per the limitation set forth in the Rules. A friend of mine had their apartment robbed. Reblogged this on Jean Sasson and commented: theres no pr0blem in punishment in ksa..the pr0blem with them is they are n0t fairm0st mutawwas unfairly take pe0ple wh0 cnt talk arabic t0 defend themselves..d0nt give lawyersthey are bias..trust me,it happened t0 pe0ple ar0und me tahts why i kn0w..i pray t0 Allah y0u w0nt be a victim 0f their misleading beards and sh0rt-th0bs..Allah Knows Best. Monday - Friday 9:00am5:00pm, Main Number:(202) 342-3800 If your god is so worried about what they are doing why doesnt he punish them himself? If a foreigner is married to his wife in his own country and works in Saudi then he met a nurse and became a couple? Since Saudi Arabia is an Islamic state, its judicial system is based on Islamic law (Shariah) for both criminal and civil cases. Its been interesting to read about the recent and ongoing debate concerning khilwa or khalwa the forbidden, private mixing of unrelated men and women and the Saudi term ikhtilat meaning the innocent, public mixing of the sexes for the purposes of business, work etc, AND that Islam has been misinterpreted in KSA with regard to this. @Kathy A womans worst enemy is women like her SO SAD!!! Islam respects NO other faith or way of life, though demands it. Jewelry, TVs, computers and everything of value was taken. When that happens Saudi Arabia will soon revert to being just another barbaric and despotic third world country. Ayesha, your response is, at least, unfortunate. The woman was also A country which separates religion from its civil activities? Under sharia, do women suddenly, magically acquire a full brain and mind when they are seen to step out of line (or just be accused of that)? and any attempt made to justify (no matter how illogically) why women can be legally held fully accountable and punished under the law for their actions in a country that denies them adult legal status and where they are therefore deemed NOT responsible for their lives. Who the fuck chops people up and whips them or rapes them??? YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! laws r laws a d there is nothing bigger than law. The website of the Saudi Center for Business Arbitration provides an Arbitration Fees Calculator by entering the amount of the dispute to be calculated in Saudi riyals and US dollars. A cane or a crop is used to beat the victim and in many cultures it takes place in a public venue, continuing the theme of public humiliation. If one of the agents appears to the court of frequent negligence under the pretext of asking his client for the purpose of procrastination, it has the right to request the presence of the authorizer himself to complete the pleading or to appoint another agent. But that doesnt make all Saudi people bad. www.corpun.com : Archive : 1976 to 1995 : SA Judicial Oct 1977-- THE ARCHIVE -- SAUDI ARABIA. You need to stop sticking yournoseinwhere it doesnt belong. Robert Thomas was sentenced last September to 16 months in prison and 300 lashes, and has since been caned 50 strokes at a time. This section is dedicated to the efforts carried out by the Ministry of Justice in relation to litigation proceedings. Australian Prime Minister John Howard has sharply criticised Saudi Arabia for jailing and flogging an Australian man for a crime allegedly committed by his wife. How come these hypocrites allow hundreds of thousands female workers to enter the country without being accompanied by a Mahram? States that at least 27 individuals were sentenced to flogging in 1996. Try again. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabias ongoing concern to providing a decent life to its citizens extends to those with disabilities as well. At all events, this punishment is being inflicted by officials in uniform, who are presumably police or judicial officers of some sort. In England the Police do not carry Side Arms. We didnt want judges to apply different standards to people living in the same country. According to Sharia Law it is prohibited to bring a female domestic aide to Saudi Arabia without a Mahram (husband, father or brother) accompanying her and staying with her the entire duration of her contract. The Ministerial Agency of Civil Affairs also launched the Taqdeer Service, which provides all the necessary services to the elderly by visiting them at home. its wrong i acept 1 thing if any man do rape with girl then he able to get punishment so i request plz don`t do this.. saudia is good country i respect but remove this thing if 2 male female agree then dont gace punishment if no punishment then its okjay i dont know about this rules maybe all thing is ok :p by by, Articles and comments are very interesting and informative here. As far as from what I have learn, Umar AlKhattab as added the specific condition for ones theft to be punish according to the hudud. In earlier years' editions it was "frequently". Though the Saudi royal family still rules the realm, they have initiated a number of reforms over the past 30 years. Tis a pity these men are allowed on the street to harass anyone they please and so often, the people they arrest are totally innocent of any crime but their lives are ruined, nevertheless. Even in Saudi arabia, some rules are not followed according to the Quran and the Sunnah, judges have their way of punishing whoever they will without proper reason and witnesses, even the person without the charge can get punishedthis is unjust in Islam and therefore proper justice must be done according to the two sources(Quran and sunnah). if yes like cutting head its very very very wrong boz both are agree male and female then why punishment?? so its a kind advice from my side please leave the imperfect and come to the perfect may ALLAH bless you. Allaah has stated in his book that once he has decreed on a matter, you have no decision (even though you think you do). [4]:160 The Sharia courts will therefore lose their general jurisdiction to hear all cases and the work load of the government's administrative tribunals will be transferred to the new courts. Cites a Human Rights Watch claim that "judges routinely issued sentences of thousands of lashes as punishment, often carried out in public". Ive been chatting to a Saudi girl online recently who is extremely dedicated to her religion and although we agree on most things, other topics result in me having to hit my head against a brick wall! Same goes for over-the-top (see: almost all) christianity. why is that permissible? Good grief what barbaric laws you have lashes,cutting off body parts and beheadings Saudi needs to update its laws and stop living in the dark ages !! Cites press reports that Saudi flogging (which the USSD seems to think is something different from caning) is administered with a "thin reed" by a man holding a book under his arm. @Jai Babu in Hindu religious book Ramayana, The Husband Ram has burnt the entire City of Ravana (which is not srilanka) for Ravana abducted Sita so why can a Muslim judge punish just two people for Adultery and immoral meetings? Who defines justice? The Courts of Appeal shall review the judgments issued by the courts of First instance, after hearing the litigants' statements, in accordance with the Shariah Procedure Law and Law of Criminal Procedure. Another is that the guy takes his sister along and voila it is no longer a khilwa. Senior Judicial Assistant Zakat, Tax and Customs Authority Riyadh, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia 16 hours ago Over 200 applicants I must compliment you on your very informative blog. It will also highlight the five stages of issuing laws, which consist of Suggestion Stage, Voting Stage, Validation Stage, Release Stage and Publication Stage. 601 New Hampshire Avenue, NW The Judicial System of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia 1. Also remember that reason and logic are completely lost on most people infected with the mind virus of Islam. ) See paragraphs 24 and 29-31 for the Saudi official response to accusations that judicial flogging constitutes torture. Both my husband and I did not say anything so I dont know if it was cut off as punishment or due to an accident or illness but I bet lots of people wonder when they meet him. It is not easy nor it was something pleasant to be done. When the parties do not have any further proof to offer or witnesses to be heard or submissions to make, or if the Tribunal is satisfied that the record is complete, then it declares the hearing closed. If the girl screams too much and seems in too much pain, they will administer the punishment in instalments - 40 lashes now, 40 in a week's time and so on. He should also tell the judge that since the incident, he has become a born again Muslim. The Philippines embassy tried to save Josephine Vergara from her punishment, but was ignored. Although I think that she is not a journalist. The savage prison flogging of young women is routine in Saudi Arabia and other Gulf nations. [10]:81, The capabilities and reactionary nature of the judges have been criticized. No rule If the point is that the punishment is too harsh, although I am a woman, I dont think it is too harsh. His refusal to forgive him contributed to the judges decision to have the thiefs hand cut off. That alone makes it a lot more powerful than the much vaunted Abrahamic god. Please watch the movie The Stoning of Soraya M. you can see how barbaric Iranians can be. On 6 September, a 24- year-old woman was sentenced to 90 lashes of the cane for alleged adultery; four days later an Asian maid was ordered to be whipped 180 times for "indulging in sex outside marriage". You cant really compare the harshness of the American legal system with the shear mediaeval barbarity of the Saudi one. The obligation of depositing referred to above is applied to the trustee, guardian and overseer. They inspire fear in the hearts of so many people and try to smash every joy of life. But unfortunately America supports Saudi by supplying weopens so that Saudi can spread terror and to attack at innocent. That should be considered. chris you believe in Jesus and bible but unfortunately you believe the imperfect. The agent must decide to attend on behalf of his client. It will take you through the four bodies of the Judicial System in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia including the Supreme Court, Appellate Court, First Instant Court, and Enforcement Court. The cane splits the skin and rips at the bare flesh. April 2005 release from Human Rights Watch gives a bit more information about the case of 35 men sentenced to jail and lashes for "deviant sexual behaviour" at an alleged gay party. A Judicial Caning in Saudi Arabia - A Kane Magazine Short Story Kindle Edition by C. Holder(Author), G. Harrison Marks(Editor), Cliff James(Photographer)& 0moreFormat: Kindle Edition 3.5 out of 5 stars2 ratings See all formats and editions Sorry, there was a problem loading this page. Caning is one of themost popular forms of corporal punishments in many countries. 6. -J Burgoyne. It seems not to occur to any of the writers that, since the whole Saudi set-up, including the judicial system, is ruthlessly corrupt from top to bottom, convictions of innocent people are even more likely than in Britain. thanks Ms. Eman .. ), where a very specific number of strokes is delivered slowly and carefully. My wife cheating on me i want to know what is the proper way to complain her to penalize i have all evidence and detail to prove that shes making sex to doctors or nurses al hofuf king fahad hopital at single old housing. Photo of public judicial caning in Saudi Arabia, Oct 1977. www.corpun.com. The flogging and imprisonment sentences against the Arab woman and two Saudi men were upheld by the countrys appeal court. Female Maid servants life is miserable, please do not take up jobs as female maid servants, as they are subjected to sexual harassment and 90% cases are that you are forced to have sex with the head of the family and the children of the family. Commercial Office:(202) 337-4088 behind close doors Saudi Royal Family and Elite do not follow any thing that they preach, DRUGS, Prostitution and CORRUPTION are the way of life in saudi arabia. Anybody (who thinks and asks questions) can see that. By what authority does the Quran have any reason to be considered more than a compilation of stories written 1,400 years ago by a group of semi-literate desert tribesmen who had a world view constrained by their time and totally unaware of all the science and knowledge we live with today (evolution and bacteria for example). FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO STILL UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT MEN AND WOMEN WILL EVER BE THE SAME. Also it became difficult with immigrants to implement it as a punishment since it was quite possible they were ignorant of the crimes they had committed until after committing the offence. RIYADH: Saudi Arabia has made significant progress in several judicial indicators, according to the World Economic Forum's latest Global . For supposed immoral behaviour or for theft, a Filipina, Sri Lankan or Indian maid in the Arab Gulf can expect up to 200 lashes with a bamboo cane no thicker than a man's small finger - administered by a man, of course. Cultural Mission:(703) 573-7226 It is certainly clear in one of the two available photographs (see above) that the operative is raising his caning arm high and has no book under it. A community cannot flourish if leaders surpress half of its population. Send me details and i want this to be done even death sentence stone untill death i will complain to stop the unfaithfull things by girls for making suck un humain doing making sex also i want to complain that police. One judge may give five . Saudis need to learn to develop talents and compete on an internaltional scalethis will require WOMEN! for being slow, arcane,[8] lacking in some of the safeguards of justice and unable to deal with the modern world. Fahd and Hadyan stated in their defence that they were delivering bread to Khamisa. Quite frankly, the act of cutting off a persons hand, for anyone for any reason is just pain wrong. [15], In 2009, the King made a number of significant changes to the judiciary's personnel at the most senior level by bringing in a younger generation. Some have been doomed from the very start a few, perhaps, were intended to be stillborn. And then they convict her for a crime that she never committed. If the plaintiff is absent and does not present a valid and excusable reason that is accepted by the court, the case will be cancelled and will not be open to resumption without a decision from the Supreme Court. This is carried out by the implementation of necessary measures to facilitate the needs of ensuring their protection throughout the legal system, allowing them to request reconciliation services, empower women as lawyers and obtain a notarized license thus leading to the overall social development and empowerment of females in the justice system and general workforce. Stages of issuing laws in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia: The first stage of issuing laws, and upon which the law-enactment process is established. Inshallah. We all muslims love to have this law. Courts that resolute execution disputes regardless of their value. However, the USA is guilty of supporting the Saudi regime, which receives the most American aid of any nation other than Israel, and that is something Americans should be ashamed of. @Ali, its your mistake that you want to find out Allahs word or Guidance on a western motivated blog, whoses criteria and prrofs are judged as per the Doctrine of Uncle Sam. Defend labour rights They are specialized in enforcing the following: Laws are issued in the Kingdom after passing five stages that are completed by the constitutional systems. The Court, in this case, works as a subject court and not a court of enforcing regulations. These hypocrites have one set of law for the poor Asians, another for the Westerners and another exclusively reserved for the Saudis. I do know that this type of punishment does not happen often. [1]:110 [2] There are also non-Sharia government tribunals which handle disputes relating to specific royal decrees. It will also highlight the five stages of issuing laws, which consist of Suggestion Stage, Voting Stage, Validation Stage, Release Stage and Publication Stage. First off all, all praises be to Allh, you have said the law which Saudi implements is cruel. I know many very good, honest, trustworthy Saudis. Maybe Im just foreign and dont understand. KSA can afford to buy in the fruits of other cultures technological advances but that situation will not last forever. Maybe change updating, re-interpretation whatever you want to call it, IS possible. Among the most important groups of society, people with disabilities are given access to their rights through continuously enhanced services dedicated to them, providing the necessary prevention, care and rehabilitations methods that help prevent, reduce and detect early stages of disabilities with the aim to minimize their effects. Reconciliation records issued by the authorities authorized to do so. On the other if you are accused of any crime, the full wrath of the law (or how it is interpreted by judges) will fall on you and you will be made to pay the same (or worse) price than men. The Tribunal will deliberate, prepare and deliver the Award in no later than 60 days from the date of the closing of the hearing. In the United Arab Emirates, they are ordered to lie on a bench to be lashed, though sometimes their hands are shackled above their heads. Another important factor in the justice system is the method of legal proceedings in Saudi courts, the seven judicial services, arbitration for commercial disputes and contacting licensed lawyers. Ordinary instruments whose content is fully or partially recognized. Browse and shop for books, home dcor, toys, gifts and more on indigo.ca. im olive ,im in relation with saudi arabian guy since 2 years he killed two of my children like when im pregnant and he doesnt want to marry me do any act there to take action on him? No one gets their hand cut for petty theft, but when you have a gang who goes around robbing houses, then that punishment comes onto the table. At least these options are better than marrying someone you have not had the chance to get to know. It consists of specialized circuits, and each circuit includes one or more judges. There is too much insecurity among people who do not allow their beliefs to be questioned and challenged. BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT TOLERANT of any other faiths. If its possible, pls give me procedure. Fahd argued that the offence of khilwa did not apply since he was related to Khamisa, who was his own uncles wife and had known him from the time when he was a child. Public punishment in modern world shame by Facebook | Russell Webster, Dating In Saudi Arabia: Tips & Advice - Banker in the Sun. Do you think its okay that Muhammad beheaded a whole tribe (banu qurayza) as if they were all guilty? Let other people be ruled by unthinking dogma from outdated books, let reason and evidence speak for us. It was alleged that Monish and Sameer were distributing the 'Islamic . you hit it right on the mony. On 23 March this year, an Islamic court there ordered two women to receive 180 lashes for alleged adultery. From what I read, anal sex in gulf nations such as Saudi Arabia is very common. What does it matter to the state or to society what people do in private, so long as they dont hurt anyone? Tmn menetelmn pitisi mys olla huomaamaton a helppokyttinen. 005.101 The country? But reading your blog is such a cultural shock for a guy like me who lives in Montral. America should invade this country to make them understand and feel the sufferings of fellow human beings, how it would feel for them to live and work in a foreign country. bad stuff is washed out of your body. Consulate/Visa Section:(202) 944-3126 Eventually the robber was caught and my friends father was asked if he would forgive the robber or not. If the opponent or his representative is absent from the first session of the opposition hearing; The court decides on its own initiative to waive his right to object, and this resolution is final. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another Quran 48:29. Saudi woman, The basic system of government in the Kingdom is based on justice and equality. The party initiating the arbitration shall pay the appropriate filing fee as per the SCCA Administrator and Arbitrators Fee Schedule. After the divorce, he took our baby and I am unable to see son. And several more, worldwide! i too enjoyed the line people too happy to be related i thought now there is a line that no matter where you live, how you grow up or what you believe you get! Why do you condemn an ordinary person for engaging in pedophilia, but when your prophet does it, you make up excuses and even defend his actions? But that doesnt make all Saudis bad- it only means the bad ones can do what they like. The USSD has now decided to refer to all Saudi JCP as "lashing" and makes no reference to different implements. For another video clip, showing a quite different kind of Saudi JCP or prison CP (falaka - whipping of the feet), see this separate page. Unfortunately, you fail to recognise that it is the act itself and its extreme brutality that is what is so shocking, not the reasons why it is done. Oil will not last forever! please suggest? Some of these reforms have been bolder and more successful than others. If the authorizer does not attend, it is not valid for the attorney to acknowledge the claimed right, or assignment, or conciliation, or accept the oath, direct it, or return it, or leave the litigation, or waive the judgment - in whole or in part - or through any of the methods of appeal against it, revoking the legal interdiction, leaving the mortgage with the debt remaining, or claiming forgery, or the judges recusal, or the choice of the expert, unless he is authorized to do so in the mandate. I read another aspect of it somewhere that the father of one of the youths who said she was his uncles wife himself complained to the religious police that these two men had gone to visit her. That anyone could care for a moment about who is talking to who, is beyond my understanding. There are numerous services provided to the elderly dedicated to health, social services, logistic services, and education and training services. 3.As soon as you enter Saudi Arabia, they will take your passport and hold it and control your movement back to your home country. In Ancient Times the Price for Killing a Swan, was Death. Ask not questions about things which if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. [6]:187 Although most judges have been educated and appointed under the current system, some of the older judges received the traditional qadi's training of years of instruction by a religious mentor in a mosque. It starts with the preparation of the first draft of the law until its submission to the competent regulatory authority, according to the provisions of voting on it. THEY were all questioned, by a few, who then created their own, of similar intent, to subjugate the masses otherwise you would not have the one you use now, nor would Christianity have the one IT uses now! All the media is state controlled, nothing goes out independently and alot of red tape is present. The Saudi court system consists of three main parts. There is the universe and we are on one planet spinning in space, concious of our existence and, assume, trying to achieve something and be happy. i think you need to read the bible again. It can be seen clearly that the official administering this whipping does not have a book under his arm (see commentary above). The Saudi Media Debates Flogging by the Saudi Religious Police Hi thereI really liked your this articleWell i have also a similar site like yours and i was thinking if you can permit can i use your article on my site, Some really interesting article you got hereIs this ok to email this article to our email list. In addition to brutal punishment, law in KSA is dispensed in a haphazard way by religious scholars and many innocent people are brutally punished. So you want our Glorious Quran to be re written so that this Glorious Quran can be turned into corrupted scriptures written by people of so called 21st century just as how the Christians have done with their bible and the Jews with their scripturesthese ignorant people sold Gods words for moneythey werent worshiping God in first place they were worshiping money(also currently the 21st century god of humankind). The same witness, whose testimony has been made available to the Independent, recorded that "many of the prisoners were domestic helpers who had been raped or otherwise abused by their employers. 9. He asked me one 50 saw a card I said no and after that he sent me following messages can anyone tell what does it mean. Ok, but what about foreigners or tourists. Lets go to first principles. Obviously the Saudi girls arent thinking about the divine law, only the physical repercussions in this world. It must be attended by someone who may be authorized to attend the litigation. The report for 2000 adds that 5 persons were sentenced to 2,600 lashes, and 4 persons to 2,400 lashes, for "deviant sexual behavior". Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice, Saudi Civil and Political Rights Association, "Saudi Arabia: Renewed Protests Defy Ban", "Tentative steps in Saudi Arabia: The king of Saudi Arabia shows some reformist credentials", "Saudi Arabian justice: Cruel, or just unusual? May you leave this Earth and be guided to paradise ASAP while wearing your vest. Saudi Arabia uses oil money to buy its way out of problems at the moment, but, as you say, the oil will not last for ever or it will be superseded by new technology that does not require oil. Now if what she told us is not true, tell us. Here, unless a person has confessed or made a tape its unlikely to be considered as extramarital sex. i have done court marriage !! It is the best time to make some plans for the future Communities who accept the different talents from all members do much better off than those that supress and hold members to preconceived ideas about their roles. Why couldnt Muhammad convince his own town Mecca and had to convince people from another town, Medina? The name of William Sampson from Britain sounds familiar to anybody? ", Asian girls who become pregnant are almost inevitably doomed to be flogged. I think khilwa thingi is a bullshit ( excuse my french) Etsitp sitten suomalaiusia naisia tai miehi taai jotain ihan muuta, lydt varmasti haluamasi palvelustamme. In the Shariah, and therefore in Saudi Arabia, there is no difference between the sacred and the secular aspects of society. THIS SO BAD TO KNOW OF SHARIA LAWS PEOPLE STEAL DUE THEY HAVE PROBLEMS ONLY NOT FOR SIMPLE THINK WAT WILL HAPPEN TO THERE PARNETS THESE TO BAD OF SAUDI LAWS . barbarian rules!! The decision was issued by a court that was not properly formed, in accordance with the provisions of the law. Kimtings Method To Go Viral. [10]:81 The training received from such Sharia law degrees is entirely religious in character and is based on the Qu'ran and centuries old religious treatises with no reference to, for example, modern commercial issues. Second, if the theft steal because of poverty then the condition to fulfill the punishment is not complete thus the punishment cannot be done. In 1998 judicial floggings continued to be imposed "routinely". Saudis are the real thevies, they loot the haj and umra pilgrims, expats. what will happen if we both escape? Only a brutal society that could tolerate amputation for theft or indeed decapitation. Where on heavens do we get to hear about several heads of Saudis getting knocked off in one day? Apart from anything else, why follow the prophet Mohammed? One Western medical worker who was herself imprisoned on fraudulent charges of "attempted seduction" has reported that several women in Saudi prisons "allege that on being arrested by police or muttawa [religious police], they are sexually molested". Sylvain Beauchamp. What business is it of yours what two unrelated people do? "Judges have a lot of discretion. but. If you have so much decision making ability, then prevent yourself from death. This was because she was a widow and as her relative, he was supposed to take care of her and thought by getting her deported he would be absolved of this responsibility. Ask not of things which, if they were made unto you, would trouble you; but if ye ask of them when the Quran is being revealed, they will be made known unto you. Bastinado was used extensively by the Nazi Regime and is continued to be used by oppressive regimes as a form of torture as it does not leave any physical evidence of a beating. The police is completely biased. Flogging THERE MUST BE A WAY TO SLOVE THING THEY SHOULD GIVE THE THEFT 4 OR 6 MONTHS JAIL AND RELEASE HIM NOT TO CUT OFF HIS HAND THINK IF HE HAS GIVE A CHANCE TO LIVE HE MIGHT LIVE AND WORK SUPPOSE IF HIS HANDS ARE CUT WAT WILL HE DO IN THIS WORLD . What I mean is, how did the religious state acquire the right to treat people in this way? but what is your take on this are you saying that this is inhuman and barbaric or you also agree with this kilawya and hand chopping things ? Cites several whipping cases, with some detail of how particular floggings were carried out. Approval of the draft law is issued after its presentation to the Council of Ministers in its capacity as the owner of the regulatory authority, in a secret session in which the draft is discussed and voted on in the presence of the concerned minister or his representative. [8] For example, as well as appointing a new Minister of Justice, a new chairman of the Supreme Judicial Council was appointed. do not put questions about things which if declared to you may trouble you, and if you question about them when the Quran is being revealed, they shall be declared to you; Allah pardons this, and Allah is Forgiving, Forbearing. well i read your article but i didnt understand the end part? The USA doesnt execute people for extra-marital sex though, or similarly ridiculous reasons, as Saudi Arabia does. Great, great article. The act of indoctrinating others and not allowing any room for the possibility and capacity to develop ones own mind is though. Is the victim better off because the thief has been rendered a cripple and his chances of rehabilitation has been reduced? [4]:161 These administrative tribunals, referred to as "committees", deal with specific issues regulated by royal decrees, such as labor and commercial law. The cruelty of the whipping of women is carefully documented throughout the Gulf where, at least in the smaller emirates, newspapers carry daily reports of the flogging of young women who often are the victims of rape at the hands of their employers. Since many of Muhammads own family members didnt believe him, why should we? At paragraph 32 we are informed that the Saudi Arabian judiciary is "completely independent", a claim not supported by various USSD and Amnesty reports. SO PLEASE CHANGE THE LAWS PEOPLE LOVE EACH OTHER AND GET MARRIED THEN ONLY THERE LIVES WILL BE GOOD WE ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO INTERFARE IN THERE WORLD I CAN UNDERSTAND WAT OUR PROPHET (PUBH) SAID US BUT RETHINK IT YOUR ALSO A HUMAN SOME DAY U WILL ASLO DO THEY THINKING IN YOUR LIFE furthermore your hand is not cutt off for petty thievery but they have to steal a substantial amount that equates to 1 gold piece and for those idiots who preach about democracy and freedom of righ in the western countries women are still payed less than men and the majority of workers in top works are men and in America known as the land of the free capital punishment still takes place for people only to question saudi arabia and not America only states how narrow minded you really are. In the case that the court rules on it, the judgement against the plaintiff shall be deemed in absentia, meaning not in attendance. [4]:174 At present, there are two types of courts of first instance: general courts and summary courts dealing with lesser cases. Judgments, court judgement, decisions of arbitrators, and authenticated instruments in a foreign country. Tuesday in an apartment which investigators believe was the last hideout of Sicilian mafia boss Matteo Messina Denaro, judicial sources said . They force people to work from 7 in the morning to 10 in the night sometimes till 12 in the midnight.without overtime payment. Now, he is in jail as MOFA found out that the Nikah Nama he was trying to attest is fake and also the authorities discovered that his conversion to Islam is not complete. Islamic judges also contend that the women are not permanently scarred, even though this is clearly untrue. The following 40-second video clip was filmed surreptitiously on a mobile telephone. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile. It is sad that inspite of being a woman, you are accepting such a blatantly discriminatory set of accepted social norms.! It all looks decidedly informal and ad hoc and arbitrary, but then the whole Saudi system is very ad hoc and arbitrary. Second case:Oversee judgments issued by the appellate courts regarding: Third case:Examining requests to resume the litigation after canceling the case for the second time after the plaintiffs absence from the hearings with an excuse acceptable to the Court. Was it always like this? In addition to the previous judicial bodies, there are several Administrative Committees that have jurisdiction to hear certain . They proclaim to the whole wide world that they implement and practice Sharia Law in their country to the hilt. He seemed like a fairly good military-political leader and was smart, however he was also violent, somewhat hypocritical in that the rules he promoted he did not fully apply to himself. The reform of the judicial system in Saudi Arabia started in 2007 when King Abdullah issued a number of royal decrees implementing an overhaul of Saudi Arabia's judicial system. [17] In the same year, the court held trial sessions of human rights activists, including Mohammed Saleh al-Bejadi, co-founder of the Saudi Civil and Political Rights Association (ACPRA)[16] and Mubarak Zu'air, a lawyer for long-term prisoners,[7] and a protester, Khaled al-Johani, who spoke to BBC Arabic Television at a protest in Riyadh. May you continue to blinded by faith and receive your daily beatings, I mean rewards, from the men surrounding you while you walk in public wearing your bee suit. At the top of the legal system is the King, who acts as the final court of appeal and as a source of pardon. (In other countries where JCP is used a lot, such as Singapore and Malaysia, there are still very many court sentences that do not include caning.) From there, they go straight to the courts and are lashed. Personally, Id rather worship a hamster it would at least be capable of building its own nest without my help. 591, Bukharis Hadith commenting on Muhammads reaction to hostile questioners.). In Saudi Arabia its just plain sick Barberism! In April 2005, a royal order approved in principle a plan to reorganize the judicial system. Unless we are the victims, we tend to sympathise with criminals. The main complaint reportedly made by Saudis privately is that judges, who have wide discretion in interpreting the Sharia, have no knowledge, and are often contemptuous, of the modern world. Essentially then there is no answer to my question? The only purpose behind this post is to state how things are. Maybe Saudi good men should rent a Taxi and drive around the good woman that he loves for the sake of God and drive around since that is OK. Its women like the one above, Ayesha, who are keeping other women suppressed. Thanks for the insight by the way. What I find astonishing is the way women in a country like KSA have no legal status as adults, yet are held fully accountable for criminal actions. Especially for expats.. Did you hear about that girl who dead just because the thief wanted to take her mobile phone in the metro ? Then, they become laws in effect. Its hard to understand the motive behind the article. These rules are just not fair !!! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. You just made our month. The perfect analogy! They are then beaten full-force with a four-foot rattan cane that has been soaked in water. The Tribunal shall set a time for a preliminary hearing via a conference call where parties present their case and to determine the procedural order such as the time of hearing for the arbitration process. Very hard to believe in this modern world. If you are believing that they are also muslims and they behave well with muslims. May Allah bless America and his brother Saudi. The Quran tells us: not to make friendship with Jews and Christians (5:51), kill the disbelievers wherever we find them (2:191), murder them and treat them harshly (9:123), fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (9:5). Isnt that a flagrant violation of the Sharia Law? Prisoners are stripped naked and shackled to an A-frame. To see more services, please visit this page. Demand respect? Reportedly, those flogged do not receive medical treatment. Punishments like stoning , cutting of parts of your body , beheading , blinding etc., cannot come from God or his word, there fore it is clear that such harsh treatment meted out on women and offenders come certainly from the devil. 555; and vol. Legal and Judicial Structure Since Saudi Arabia is an Islamic state, its judicial system is based on Islamic law (Shari'ah) for both criminal and civil cases. Wahabis are the worst human on earth. I was in KSA in 1990 during the war,( from America). How much time does it take to give u punishment is there any age limit? I tired to fake that i was a foreigner by only . I need help,i commit a mistake,at Jeddah international airport i rush to the restrooms due to stomach ache not knowing that is a womans restroom,but no one is there except the ladies cleaner and they shock that theres a man in womans restroom.what will i do?what is my punishment.there is also a camera in that area thats why i suddenly go away.any advice.its not my intension but due to my negligence. On 23 March this year, an Islamic court there ordered two women to receive 180 lashes for alleged adultery. 91) Allah has hated you[for] asking too many questions. (vol. 5. TWO Britons have been given public floggings in Saudi Arabia for breaking the Moslem law which forbids alcohol. Judicial costs refer to the initial fees that the plaintiff is obliged to pay to the relevant department accompanying the filing of the lawsuit with the courts. The Kingdoms efforts to improve the care and quality of life of the elderly is essential and provided by a number of initiatives and valued services. Please tell us why Jurisdiction of the Supreme Court is limited to four cases, which are: Violating the provisions of Sharia law and the regulations issued by the legal Guardian that do not violate the Islamic Laws. The court, however, rejected this argument. One reader describes being himself judicially caned in Saudi Arabia in 1994 (probably a hoax: it was in the Daily Mail). Judgments, decisions and orders issued by the courts. Flogging with a cane is administered for less serious offences, such as drinking alcohol. In summary, Saudi Arabia has in the last few years implemented radical and wide-ranging reforms to increase efficiency and improve predictability within its legislative and judicial systems. you sound like a very intelligent woman very capable of many things, what are you still doing in that country? what a complete of of bull written by nk on the sacred un-adulterated quality of the Quran. when someone took my cell phone and used adult contents in saudi arabia. Soldiers administering corporal punishment in the main square of Riyadh. I remember how angry they looked if someone SMILED as though a smile was an affront to them and God. C. Holder is the author of A Judicial Caning in Saudi Arabia - A Kane Magazine Short Story (0.0 avg rating, 0 ratings, 0 reviews) Amnesty International Report 1999 Free shipping with orders over $35 and free ship-to-store. i came up with a theory that involves the book of genesis (fig leaves) buddha (sitting under the bodhi fig tree) jesus (many sayings about figs) ross hornes book (new health revolution) and science (figs are the most important source of food for fruit eating rainforest animals). His best bet is to dress like a muttawa, start to grow a beard, hold his head down and look remorseful. If the idea being proposed here is that people involved in khulwa and adultery should not be punished, that idea is not acceptable.. Fucking disgusting, how mindlessly some of you follow a book that was probably written by some insane crackpot that grew up without any real understanding of the world. The terms were considered too broad and harsh, requiring . All these things can and do happen. Saudis have to hopelessly fall in love to take such a risk .. ! 3. The caning, if so it can be described, is targeted very approximately at the culprit's buttocks, but its administration is so hasty and slapdash that some of the strokes appear to fall on the small of his back. for you to diss islam and then sign off with allahu akbar is quiet ironic for someone named slave and dismiss islam. Reveals that the Saudi authorities have contested the UN view that judicial corporal punishment constitutes torture. Keep on the good work, saudiwoman! If the concern is safety of women that is ridiculous. You cannot drive a car or select a profession?! And the aggressive approach of a notable amount of Islam indicates that it is not sufficiently strong to stand up to scrutiny. SAUDI ARABIA: Judicial CP A very conservative version of Koranic law is in force in this exceptionally backward, corrupt and repressive country, a ruthless totalitarian dictatorship run by an absolute monarchy. It is surrealyou cannot decide to whom you speak or with whom you have coffee? And also just because a person is sitting with an unrelated person in a public place, doesnt also mean that IT IS khilwa..and also there is basically no exception watsoever..and this article only serves as exposing and creating awarenessnothing else!! Saudi government is hell bent on applying their version of Sharia law when the perpetrators of a misdemeanor or felony happens to be the destitute people from poor Asian counties. Can you help me? How does that work? Why is the Quran full of verses that say Muhammad is not crazy? What is the religious justification for this? Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? I dont know the details such as whether or not the thief had a previous history of stealing. Questions like name, relatives names and even color of furniture, address, employment and all other things married couples naturally know. So youre basically saying that khilwa is not a bad thing and people should be punished for committing adultery or khilwa ?. This is the best adsense alternative for any type of website (they approve all websites), for more info simply search in gooogle: murgrabias tools. They take the passports of expats and harrass them as bonded labours. If a child is chopped to pieces or even raped as punishment because it was viewed that it fit their actions, would you still agree to it? Why does Muhammads ascension story sound so strikingly similar to Jesus ascension? Wow! Jai Babu, Contracts and other instruments that have executive titles under the Law. The courts are an essential pillar of the State. Wow, so if you ask questions you might find that the answers prove that your faith is flawed and you should abandon it? [1]:111 Final appeal from both Sharia courts and government tribunals is to the King of Saudi Arabia and all courts and tribunals follow Sharia rules of evidence and procedure. US State Department Report on Human Rights Practices for 2003 One of the reasons for the rejection was that her youngest son is 10 years older than Fahd! I read this online: Youre not supposed to see one in the first place .. if a man having sex to girl in internet,its possible a crime and filed him a punnishment? By refusing to comment on you are silently approving of these inhuman punishments. Next thing you know is these bunch of hypocrites want to apply the Sharia law by bringing the neck of this innocent girl to the chopping board and all this without a proper representation and a fair trial. Protecting human rights is an essential duty of the Kingdom and as a result, the Kingdom has set out on a mission to ensure the continuous protection of women in society by preserving their rights and issuing decisions and orders in relation to their rights. Seems the religion should be able to stand up to more investigation and questioning. The woman, who was also sentenced to four months imprisonment, was found guilty of being in the company of two men, who were not her relatives. HRW has sometimes been prone to exaggeration in the past, but if this is true, I should think it must make Saudi Arabia pretty well unique in the world. Personally, I myself hold the view that even in case of a large-scale theft hands should not be cut off and there should not be any punishment for two unrelated people of opposite sex meeting in public. Sharia Law is inferior to Common Law developed in England and what is better is that we have a complete separation of Church / Mosque & State. To apply for a lawyer search service, please visit this page. However, some observers, notably Amnesty International (see external links below), reject these claims as mere propaganda by the regime; they say this Koranic rule is by no means always followed, and suggest that the floggings, at least in some cases, do in fact cause injury to the recipient. A punishment for khilwa is common and weve all come across muttawas trolling coffee shops and restaurants searching for pairs who seem too happy to be related. Why not appreciate this life? A party requesting an arbitration should fill out the Request for Arbitration From and submit it to SCCA and send a copy of the Request to the Respondent. [2] Senior judges will only allow like-minded graduates of select religious institutes to join the judiciary and will remove judges that stray away from rigidly conservative judgments. 7. 9, Diplomatic Quarter Riyadh, Saudi Arabia Telephone: (966) (11) 488-3800 Emergency Telephone: (966) (11) 488-3800 Fax: (966) (11) 488-7670 RiyadhACS@state.gov. If any body approaches the authority, the police will suppress the cases. a sentence of 40 lashes was handed out to a 75-year-old woman in Saudi Arabia! Its time to bring Islam up to the modern standards of Judaism & Christianity.by asking questions! sadly violence and torture and unfair teatment seems acceptable to muslims. On 31 August, 2021 . Dear sir, update me .if some have pay his punishment by the Saudi government & been released .after paying his charge .Is the crime will be valid for his career ? So dont ask questions just live with a faith that is likely flawed (since you cant ask questions about it, presumably under the threat of physical attack). Its procedures are as follows: More details on Arbitration Procedures Guide. I liked your comment the religious police go around looking for couples who seem to be too happy to be related! but a coffee shop or resturant .. man that is sick! Local courts routinely order floggings, often of hundreds of lashes -- or even thousands, inflicted in instalments. Why did so many people accuse Muhammad of being crazy? Many of the people who were close to Muhammad didnt believe him like Abu Sufyan and Abu Taleb. if the woman was slapped around and whipped then perhaps you would think its a harsh law. Given that genders are essentially equal, with number of female and male babies surviving past infancy. 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If the defendant informs his attorney or representative on the date of the court hearing, and the attorney or representative does not attend, or if the defendant or his attorney deposited a memorandum of his defense with the court before the hearing and do not attend, or if the defendant attends any hearing and then was absent, the court will rule on the case and its judgement against the defendant will be deemed as in the presence of the defendant.